Maximum damage output with Swords ... - Guild Wars Forums

bjmichaudphd · May 18, 2007, 02:03 PM // 14:03

To get maximum damage output with swords, assuming all other factors are equal, should I use:
(1) Furious (adrenaline) sword with adrenalin attacks and skills
OR
(2) Zealous (energy) sword with energy attacks and skills?
Thank you.

HawkofStorms · May 18, 2007, 04:57 PM // 16:57

Shrug. There is no "best" sword type. It all depends on what build you use (for example, dragon slash with Furious can be great because of the chance to get 10 adrenaline from it). They are all viable. Play around with it yourself and see which one YOU prefer.

lennymon · May 18, 2007, 08:11 PM // 20:11

1 is better if you use mostly adrenaline skills, and 2 is better if you have a lot of energy based skills on your bar. #2 could be better when you have mostly adrenaline except for 1 high energy combo (i.e. headbash/plague touch 20e) so you can use it more frequently. lol, in short the answer is: it depends...

Soul of the Scythe · May 18, 2007, 08:21 PM // 20:21

I would go with zealous and use either "For Great Justice"(50% more adrenaline for 20 seconds) and/or "To The Limit"(1 strike of adrenaline for each foe around you max of 4 or 5) and use an adrenaline build those 2 skills will keeep ur adrenaline up and zealous will keep enrgy up to use those skills. Furious is too iffy to rely on for an adrenaline build imo. of course, if you use only 1 energy skill(or 2) and you dont think energy for thsoe skills will be a problem then u could go with furious.

Stormlord Alex · May 18, 2007, 08:28 PM // 20:28

Vampiric is better overall for damage, but of the two...
Furious. There aren't any worthwhile energy-based sword attacks, and getting 10 adrenaline from Dragon slash is sweet.

Thomas.knbk · May 18, 2007, 08:59 PM // 20:59

DO NOT USE ENERGY BASED ATTACK SKILLS
THEY SUCK
The only reason you'd want Zealous is to pay for more Frenzy.
Furious sucks too. double adrenaline 10% of the time is not a lot. It can be fun in a Dragon Slash build (dragon slash>dragon slash), but even there it's not really worth it. The most damage will come from Zealous with Sundering or Vamp on spikes.
There are A LOT of threads about the vamp vs. sundering debate. I believe generally the Sundering comes out on top.
Your weapon bar should look like this: set 1: zealous, set 2: sundering/vamp, set 3: elemental (for attacking warriors) set 4: wand for ranged adrenaline gain.

KANE OG · May 18, 2007, 11:54 PM // 23:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

DO NOT USE ENERGY BASED ATTACK SKILLS
THEY SUCK
The only reason you'd want Zealous is to pay for more Frenzy.
Furious sucks too. double adrenaline 10% of the time is not a lot. It can be fun in a Dragon Slash build (dragon slash>dragon slash), but even there it's not really worth it. The most damage will come from Zealous with Sundering or Vamp on spikes.
There are A LOT of threads about the vamp vs. sundering debate. I believe generally the Sundering comes out on top.
Your weapon bar should look like this: set 1: zealous, set 2: sundering/vamp, set 3: elemental (for attacking warriors) set 4: wand for ranged adrenaline gain.

Deadly Reposte definately does not suck, and I very much disagree that sundering comes out on top in the debates on these forums.

KANE

ShadowsRequiem · May 19, 2007, 12:54 AM // 00:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by KANE OG

Deadly Reposte definately does not suck, and I very much disagree that sundering comes out on top in the debates on these forums.

KANE

yah I'd disagree with that too, wtf thread said sundering was better?

From what I remember someone did a test stating that vamp added up to more overall dmg above sundering... which was in the latest thread.

May 18, 2007, 02:03 PM // 14:03	#1
bjmichaudphd Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2006 Profession: W/Mo	Maximum damage output with Swords ... To get maximum damage output with swords, assuming all other factors are equal, should I use: (1) Furious (adrenaline) sword with adrenalin attacks and skills OR (2) Zealous (energy) sword with energy attacks and skills? Thank you.

May 18, 2007, 04:57 PM // 16:57	#2
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Shrug. There is no "best" sword type. It all depends on what build you use (for example, dragon slash with Furious can be great because of the chance to get 10 adrenaline from it). They are all viable. Play around with it yourself and see which one YOU prefer.

May 18, 2007, 08:11 PM // 20:11	#3
lennymon Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seattle Guild: Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: R/	1 is better if you use mostly adrenaline skills, and 2 is better if you have a lot of energy based skills on your bar. #2 could be better when you have mostly adrenaline except for 1 high energy combo (i.e. headbash/plague touch 20e) so you can use it more frequently. lol, in short the answer is: it depends...

May 18, 2007, 08:21 PM // 20:21	#4
Soul of the Scythe Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Guild: Higher Order [HO] Profession: D/	I would go with zealous and use either "For Great Justice"(50% more adrenaline for 20 seconds) and/or "To The Limit"(1 strike of adrenaline for each foe around you max of 4 or 5) and use an adrenaline build those 2 skills will keeep ur adrenaline up and zealous will keep enrgy up to use those skills. Furious is too iffy to rely on for an adrenaline build imo. of course, if you use only 1 energy skill(or 2) and you dont think energy for thsoe skills will be a problem then u could go with furious.

May 18, 2007, 08:28 PM // 20:28	#5
Stormlord Alex Grotto Attendant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm] Profession: W/E	Vampiric is better overall for damage, but of the two... Furious. There aren't any worthwhile energy-based sword attacks, and getting 10 adrenaline from Dragon slash is sweet.

May 18, 2007, 08:59 PM // 20:59	#6
Thomas.knbk Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006	DO NOT USE ENERGY BASED ATTACK SKILLS THEY SUCK The only reason you'd want Zealous is to pay for more Frenzy. Furious sucks too. double adrenaline 10% of the time is not a lot. It can be fun in a Dragon Slash build (dragon slash>dragon slash), but even there it's not really worth it. The most damage will come from Zealous with Sundering or Vamp on spikes. There are A LOT of threads about the vamp vs. sundering debate. I believe generally the Sundering comes out on top. Your weapon bar should look like this: set 1: zealous, set 2: sundering/vamp, set 3: elemental (for attacking warriors) set 4: wand for ranged adrenaline gain.